It takes more faith to be an atheist

The newest statement of faith from the believers is that it takes more faith to be an atheist than they have. I think this is just a variation of Pascals wager, because going into the statement, it's one of two things they can be concerned about.

Mostly when questioned they will argue that there is no "real evidence" for evolution. At this point you may as well throw your hands up in awe and walk away. The fact is that there is only one cure for stupid and that is death. We are by law and by a deep sense of inner morality precluded from just shooting anyone with the brain power of a dead chicken, so walking away is the only real option.

You see no matter how much evidence you offer, it will never be enough to overcome, it's pretty and goddidit. It takes real courage for people with this mindset to even consider an alternative life view thus it will always take more faith than they have to actually start thinking.

The second alternative argument will be what if I am wrong, They get to lose nothing if they are wrong, Atheists lose the kitchen sink and all the cutlery. Pascals wager is just this, They live in fear just in case the alternative is wrong. Here is the thing if their God does exist and they only fear him in case the alternative is wrong, do you not think an omniscient being will see right through that?

But let's take this statement to it's full conclusion. Atheists must have more faith, right? Not so, First we would need faith to believe that their is a God. We can argue that there is no evidence of any God's, thus logically there may or may not be a God, evidence that there is no God is no more available that evidence that there is. Negatives are impossible to prove thus Russels teapot cannot be disproven, yet logically it makes no sense to believe in something that cannot be proven to exist. No faith required, faith however is required to believe in something with no evidence at all.

Already before we start looking at which God, we require faith that a God exists, the next question is which God, Christians have no faith in Odin, That must take dollops of faith, huge chunks, right? They don't believe in Vishnu, Amun Ra, Cthulu, even more faith required, Atheists don't need all this additional faith, we only need enough faith to not believe in something that presents with no evidence for it's existence. simple really.

Christianity needs more faith than I can muster, as well as Islam, and the other 3000 Gods man has known to have worshiped in his existence on earth.

still faithless 2014/08/04 03:03:10 PM
Faith is exclusively religious. My default positions are: I dont know, but will like to / enjoy finding out I know, through peer reviewed, independently verifiable evidence. No room for believing without doubt in something that has nothing but a book, mass delusion and a hugely successful financial and political scam to support it.
Siebert Mazus 2014/08/04 03:08:56 PM
Goddless writes: -The newest statement of faith from the believers is that it takes more faith to be an atheist than they have.- It's such a stupid 'argument' from some believers it doesn't even need to be answered. Isn't 'faith' supposed to a virtue? It seems as if they have absolutely no empirical, verifiable evidence for the existence of Spooks. That's why they only have ridiculous 'arguments'for the existence of their favourite Spooks nowadays. They go for things like the Big Bang Theory. Their 'argument' basically goes like this: 1. 'Spooks caused the Big Bang, so somehow Spooks exist today...'
Siebert Mazus 2014/08/04 03:14:42 PM
Godless writes: -The newest statement of faith from the believers is that it takes more faith to be an atheist than they have. - If anyone makes that statement, I know that the person is absolutely, unbelievably stupid.
Fired up 2014/08/04 03:17:55 PM
Ok, the cultural relativism and polytheistic arguments used to discredit Christianity are past their sell- by date by now. Is that all you have, it would seem that way.
Siebert Mazus 2014/08/04 03:29:05 PM
Godless writes: -The newest statement of faith from the believers is that it takes more faith to be an atheist than they have.- Actually, it's been going on for a while, but not even one of them has explained why they write it. It's like a mantra for fundies. In the end no substance involved.
Nobby Poltice 2014/08/04 03:29:06 PM
I like your arguments. It would appear that Christians, and the evangelical numty American Jesus variety in particular, attend special brainwashing marketing sessions where they are coached in mouthing the most ridiculous arguments to parrot in defence of their inane beliefs. You don't really believe there is no God. God has a calling on your life and He is still going to use you. This is just a syage you are going through and you wil come back to God. You can't understand the Bible because you don't have the Holy Spirit. You just need to read the Bible. You really do not understands Christianity. You just did not follow the (right brand) of Christianity. You just had a bad experience. The Bible is Truth. You were just never a true Christian. It is a relationship not a religion. I cannot explain it to you; you just need to talk to my pastor. You just need to pray. You just need more faith. (Insert name of celebrity) was an atheist and became a Christian. You are still saved.
Colleen 2014/08/04 03:37:17 PM
It takes no faith to be atheist. Literally. It takes faith to be theist. Literally. End of argument.
GMitch 2014/08/04 04:00:04 PM
The statement "it takes more faith to be an atheist" made by theists is one of equivocation. What they don't realise is that in the process of doing this they are simply admitting faith is not a good measure of anything.
Wehr Wulf 2014/08/04 04:30:04 PM
It takes no faith to be an atheist, just logic, reason, courage, critical thinking. But I get what you mean by the heading.
Lojik Alfinkre 2014/08/04 04:47:31 PM
. A theist making a statement that it takes more faith to be an atheist than they have is equal to saying "I am unable to understand the definition of 'atheism'" .