Ramaphosa in 'incestuous' relations with roleplayers

Pretoria - Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa was caught up in "incestuous relations" with roleplayers at Marikana in August 2012, the Farlam Commission of Inquiry heard on Tuesday.

"You had relations with [former police minister] Mr Nathi Mthethwa, you were both in the ANC national executive of the ANC, as well as with [ANC secretary general] Gwede Mantashe," said Dali Mpofu, for the wounded and arrested Marikana miners.

"You were a non-executive director of Lonmin. If you look at that web of relationships you will accept that you were caught in a cesspool of incestuous relationships in relation to the [Marikana] players."


Ramaphosa objected.

"Mr chairman, I do take exception to a question that seems to suggest that my relation with my organisation, the African National Congress, is incestuous," he said.

"Similarly, Mr Chairman, I also take exception to a suggestion that my relationship with the secretary general of the ANC, and all the other colleagues, is incestuous."

Mpofu responded: "Yeah, that might well be."

Commission chairperson retired judge Ian Farlam said "incestuous" was an "unhappy word" which should be withdrawn.

"You should spell out what the nature of the conflict was. Put to the witness clearly what the conflict was. Don't use objectionable adjectives," Farlam said.

Mpofu responded: "I will try and restrain myself."

The commission is investigating the deaths of 44 people during strike-related violence at Lonmin's platinum mining operations at Marikana, near Rustenburg in the North West, in August 2012.


On Tuesday, Mpofu said Ramaphosa's responsibilities at Marikana went beyond fiduciary duties as a non-executive director of Lonmin.

"Of the parties you say should share the responsibility, you were associated with [the] Lonmin board and management, you were a shareholder, the SA Police Service, the government," said Mpofu.

Ramaphosa said he was not in government [at the time].

Mpofu retorted: "You were not in government but you were exchanging telephone calls with people in government.

"You were a senior member of the ANC".

Mpofu suggested Ramaphosa was criminally liable for the Marikana events.

"For me to motivate for that recommendation to be made, I am going lay the basis in this discussion with you. The first basis is your actions or non-actions," he said.

"The other basis is what we lawyers call the causality. That is the connection between what you did and the consequences thereof. In this case, the consequences are the death and injuries of mineworkers."

Fiwals West 2014-08-12 01:40:13 PM
Fire him!!! Mbeki was better!
Eugene Fourie 2014-08-12 01:41:14 PM
How does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot now? First a big shot Anti-Capitalist Union Leader..now a a Capitalist Anti- Union businessman...
Rudi De Jager 2014-08-12 01:51:01 PM
careful what you wish for !!!
Andrew M 2014-08-12 01:55:58 PM
Dali Mpofu has a political motive rather than finding the truth with his line of questioning. Why not stick to the facts not point fingers and mouth accusations Mr Mpofu. Dont forget it was not only miners who were killed.
Ms M. 2014-08-12 01:56:48 PM
Mpofu is such a drama queen
Reinardt Bronkhorst 2014-08-12 02:11:34 PM
Are we still going on with this sick joke? People died. It happens. If there is blame, lay a charge and let the courts decide. That is how our legal system works right? Right now, the only thing happening here, is that we the tax payers, are paying for Mpofu's retirement. This commission serves no other purpose.
DrManhattan 2014-08-12 02:30:19 PM
Can you spell "hypocrite"? Is it OK to be a politician AND a businessman as long as no-one is getting hurt?
September Mphikeleli 2014-08-12 02:49:12 PM
Put him down Comrade Mpofu EFF VS ANC thugs Ramaphosa
Bonga Thomas Sankara 2014-08-12 03:23:29 PM
Ramaphosa is evil...he has satan in him...lol
Spartacus 2014-08-12 04:01:08 PM
All about protecting his shares. Marikana was the ANC's Sharpeville . . . how ironical that the suppressed has turned into the suppressor. How is the bull doing Cyril?