17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
Pretorius and Zondo are back. Agrizzi however is not.
Zondo: We were supposed to resume at 2pm, we did not, because there was a security situation in the building - connected with the hearing that needed to be looked into.
It is necessary that those who come here are safe, and we need to give the necessary officials space to do their work.
Proceedings adjourned for the day. To resume tomorrow, Friday, January 18.
17 Jan 2019
AA: People who knew too much, would get disposed of.
Blame would be put on those who left. Agrizzi said he started to receive all the blame.
When asked what motivated the recording of video footage, Agrizzi says Van Tonder captured the footage on behalf of him, as proof that Watson was behind it.
Watson often boasted that he never signed anything so he couldn't be pinned.
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
Agrizzi tells commission that the video clip was taken in 2017. He was not part of Bosasa anymore at that time.
Zondo: What motivated the taking of this video?
Agrizzi says when you start raising your voice and saying 'I don’t want to do this anymore' you would easily be terminated.
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
PP: There would be a stage where Bosasa would bid for the award of a particular tender?
AA: That is correct
PP: There would be occassions where Bosasa was involved prior to tender conditions, writing up conditions once contract ran its course. Client had discretion to extend tender?
AA: That is correct
PP: On the occasion when the contract exprired, a tender process would have to be gone through before contract ended?
AA: Correct
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
Reference of monopoly money explained:
AA: Cash was nothing in the company, it was just money. It was a phrase frequently used by Watson.
RZ: What was the significance of that reference?
AA: He says it's just money so we can get monopoly. Cash was nothing at the company, something that was readily available.
17 Jan 2019
Video evidence:
You can here Gavin's busy making up the notes.
Safe was empty so they needed to refill, someone inside heard saying "I'll come back".
Andries van Tonder is counting the cash.
Stacks of cash reaching R1m.
17 Jan 2019
Ramaphosa must cancel all Bosasa contracts – Maimane
DA leader Mmusi Maimane wants President Cyril Ramaphosa to cancel all Bosasa contracts immediately.
In a statement issued on Thursday, Maimane said that the first day of testimony by former Bosasa chief operations officer Angelo Agrizzi "shone a new light on how totally corrupt the ANC government is".
17 Jan 2019
Agrizzi: The use of cash from the safe was used predominantly for illegal activities.
Agrizzi explains that the grey bags were only used for bribes.
17 Jan 2019
We're back...Agrizzi raising a concern now. Four years ago, I employed a gentleman named Solomon Segale.
I saw him standing with a group of uniformed policemen yesterday, he slipped in on his old police card without proper accreditation.
17 Jan 2019
PP: Chair, I don't know if you want to play the video through and then take the short adjournment?
RZ: I'm easy. Maybe it might be convenient to finish the video?
PP: We will be a while.The scenes that come later may require more attention.
RZ: We'll take the tea adjournment, and resume at 11:30.
17 Jan 2019
Joe Gumede can be heard asking for an 'extra' R10 000.
In the background, Papa Leshabane can be seen speaking on his cellphone. He has atleast two grey plastic bags filled with cash in his left hand.
17 Jan 2019
Agrizzi: Joe Gumede is speaking with Gavin Watson in English and Papa Leshabane is on his cellphone speaking either Xhosa or Tswana.
Four people present in the the vault: Watson, Gumede, Van Tonder, and Papa Leshabane.
17 Jan 2019
Agrizzi tells an interesting anecdote: "My hands are pretty bruised from all the years of closing the drop safe."
Agrizzi pauses the video to show two safes in the background against the wall.
Agrizzi says Watson is holding R100 000, and takes the Chair through how he determined this.
Pretorius wants Agrizzi to play on and relate what is being said by the individuals in the vault.
17 Jan 2019
Zondo interrupts. "During your time at Bosasa, you have never seen these bags carrying anything other than cash?"
AA: I can confirm.
RZ: And that's a period spanning nearly 19 years?
AA: That's correct.
17 Jan 2019
WATCH LIVE | #StateCaptureInquiry: Former Bosasa COO Agrizzi back on the stand
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
17 Jan 2019
Agrizzi has identified Gavin Watson and Joe Gumede seated inside the safe so far.
We are taking a five minute break as technical peeps try and assist to find a way to better view the video.
17 Jan 2019
So far the video shows Van Tonder taking a box from one vault to another at Bosasa headquarters. Agrizzi explained the box was filled with cash. The vaults were all behind false doors.
17 Jan 2019
Pretorius is walking Agrizzi through the video step by step.
Gavin Watson makes an appearance in the video, he says 'good morning' in the video.
The desk is used for counting cash, whiich Agrizzi confirms.
17 Jan 2019
Video carefully analysed, frequent pauses where Agrizzi provides context and explains who is present in the video.
Pretorius asks questions about the vault and various locations in the video.Agrizzi identifies the person in the video as Andries van Tonder, a former colleague, who appears to be opening the safe and removing a box with money, Agrizzi testifies.
He says these boxes were only used to distribute bribery cash.
17 Jan 2019
On to the video:
PP: Some context, did you take the video?
AA: No, but I did ask someone to take it for me.
Pretorius asking detailed questions of Agrizzi over the vault (Gavin's safe) wherein the cash for bribes was counted, packaged and stored.
17 Jan 2019
And we are underway for day 2 of Angelo Agrizzi's testimony before the State Capture Inquiry.
We are kicking off today with a video clip, that will be shown, of Gavin Watson counting out cash for bribes at Bosasa.
Agrizzi has donned a tan suit today, sharp contrast to the dark and sombre ensemble of yesterday.