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WATCH LIVE: State Capture Inquiry | Day 10
(via SABC)
06 Sep 2018
The next witness will only testify on Monday.
Regarding the applications of the Guptas and Duduzane Zuma, Zondo says he will reserve his decision and "in due course" it will be advised, hoping for early next week.
The commission adjourns for the day, until Monday morning.
06 Sep 2018
Zondo poses a question to Hellens on "precognition": "So
Some laughter from the crowd.
Hellens fires back: "People chuckle, and you use the word 'ambush', but it's not really,
06 Sep 2018
Hellens says Ajay Gupta has a "powerfully contrary version" to Vytjie Mentor's version of events, that might not be put before the commission. Says the commission doesn't have to send a "caravan" to Dubai, one person can go.
06 Sep 2018
Bham wraps up and Zondo notes that the commission has reached its conclusion for the day, but allows Advocate Hellens some time to respond to submissions.
Hellens starts off by dismissively referring to some of the arguments put forward by legal counsel for the witnesses.
06 Sep 2018
Maseko "would love" for the Guptas to come to South Africa and test his version of events, his lawyer tells Zondo.
06 Sep 2018
Bham argues that Zondo should grant Guptas leave to cross-examine on the condition that he undertakes to testify in South Africa.
06 Sep 2018
Lewis summarises by saying her submission, on behalf of Mentor, is aligned with those of Maleka and Cockrell.
06 Sep 2018
Cockrell submits that the application of the Guptas who refuse to testify in the borders of South
06 Sep 2018
Cockrell also argues against Hellens' submission to cross-examine Jonas without seeing the Guptas' statements. "There is no merit in that submission."
Cockrell says Jonas should not be situated "behind any veil of ignorance".
06 Sep 2018
On a principle of "symmetry", Cockrell argues Jonas should be put on equal footing as the parties he has implicated, who want to cross-examine him.
06 Sep 2018
On the point of Lynne Brown's application, Cockrell asks what she could possibly cross-examine Jonas about. Cockrell says Jonas did not implicate Brown.
06 Sep 2018
Maleka has wrapped up, and Advocate Alfred Cockrell is now making submissions on behalf of his client, Mcebisi Jonas.
06 Sep 2018
Maleka summarises by saying the legal team of the commission would like Zondo to reject the applications for leave to cross-examine witnesses by the Gupta brothers and Duduzane Zuma.
06 Sep 2018
With particular reference to Duduzane Zuma, Maleka reiterates that his evidence would not be used in criminal proceedings against him. Maleka reads into record Duduzane's statement where he says he would not want to derail the commission.
06 Sep 2018
Maleka argues that the rules of "fair play" cater for prejudice if it rises in the course of the commission.
Maleka says the rules are clear that whatever evidence is presented before the commission will not be used against anyone.
06 Sep 2018
Maleka on Advocate Hellens' issue of "precognition" - not letting witnesses access statements from implicated parties before being cross-examined - says it is not conducive. Maleka says the best and most efficient form of cross-examination is to give the opposing version to witnesses in advance. The point is not to trick witnesses with cross-examination.
06 Sep 2018
Maleka tells Zondo the testimony from the Gupta brothers is to deny, not to get to the truth. Their statements are filled with denials and "not worth
Maleka says it could be that the commission arrives at the truth of the Gupta brothers' conduct from parties other than themselves, and therefore there is no need to entertain their requests.
06 Sep 2018
The crux of Maleka's argument is that "it is not in the best interests of the commission".
06 Sep 2018
Maleka says even Duduzane Zuma may not trust law enforcement in SA, but he came back to the country to face them. Maleka asks why the Gupta brothers, his "business partners", should be treated any differently? He says the Guptas want selective treatment.
06 Sep 2018
Maleka: "The purpose of the cross-examination they (the Guptas) want to pursue, is to discredit the evidence of the witnesses. The purpose of their undertaking to testify
"They would simply want to make use of the commission's processes to proclaim and advance their innocence."
06 Sep 2018
Maleka asks Zondo about the cost implications to the commission (and taxpayers) of accommodating the Guptas' requests.
06 Sep 2018
Maleka: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and we don't want to risk that road."
06 Sep 2018
Maleka: "It will
06 Sep 2018
Zondo has also granted the legal team of the Hawks' Mtolo
06 Sep 2018
In regard to Ajay Gupta, Rajesh Gupta
06 Sep 2018
Advocate Maleka mentions Advocate Jaap Cilliers, for Fana Hlongwane, in his absence. Cilliers said Hlongwane would avail himself for cross-examination. Zondo grants leave to cross-examine in this instance.
