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WATCH LIVE: #StateCaptureInquiry | Day 6
29 Aug 2018
Zondo consults with Maleka to ask how long he thinks this line of questioning could still go on, and they agree to postpone proceedings until tomorrow morning.
Adjourned until 09:30 tomorrow morning.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko says despite some reluctance, he eventually did go meet with Ajay Gupta at the Saxonwold residence a week or so after he received the call.
Maseko says he did not think too much about the choice of venue, because "of the type of person" that he was. Maseko says for that reason it didn't matter where the meeting took place.
Zondo and Maleka continue to question Maseko about whether or not that is normal business practice.
Maseko says at that particular time he did not see anything "untoward" about the meeting venue.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko, when asked, places his meeting with Ajay Gupta around May/June/July in 2010, says he doesn't have access to his GCIS diary so doesn't have exact dates.
29 Aug 2018
Maleka asks Maseko if he knows when The New Age newspaper was launched, and Maseko says 2010.
Maseko says Ajay Gupta told him over the phone that he needed government support for their project to succeed, and Ajay wanted to meet face to face to discuss the project.
Maseko clarifies that it was part of his role to meet with all media owners, and editors and journalists.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko says he had interacted with Ajay Gupta in his capacity as a board member of Brand SA. Maseko also says his cellphone number was out in the public, so it would have been easy for Gupta to get it.
29 Aug 2018
The R600-million amount is confirmed as the "media buying"
29 Aug 2018
Maseko explains the operational budget of GCIS was R480-million per annum, and the R600-million amount is money the GCIS spends on behalf of other departments.
Maseko had told the Public Protector that Ajay Gupta mentioned a budget of R600-million to him, which surprised Maseko.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko says he received a call from Hawks spokesperson Mulaudzi, who he knew, saying they were worried about the Sunday Times article and would put him in touch with Godfrey Lebeya at the Hawks.
Maseko says Lebeya asked him for details of the
29 Aug 2018
Maleka, reading from the Sunday Times report, says "Hawks spokesperson Hangwani Mulaudzi said he was not aware of the investigation"...
Maseko expresses shock at
29 Aug 2018
Maseko's attorney, Tyrone Maseko (no relation, says Maseko), had asked the Hawks for an update on the Public Works contract investigation. He says they still don't have an update.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko is referred to a Sunday Times article relating to a call he received from the Hawks regarding a matter surrounding Public Works. It had nothing to do with the first
29 Aug 2018
Maseko was told by the Hawks that they were looking to charge former president Zuma and Ajay Gupta, around April 2018. He was later told they were not following through.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko says after he contacted the Hawks on the number provided, they met and he submitted an affidavit on June 22, 2017, as part of the Hawks' investigation into state capture.
Maseko says Govender sought affidavits from Maseko on two occasions, and the second affidavit confirmed the details of the first.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko: "I happen to be one of those people who play a game called 'Twitter', and in my
Zondo laughs. "Well, I need that explanation, yes."
Maseko: "I was going through my Twitter messages and I got a direct message from a person who identified themselves as Captain Govender, who requested me to call him as a matter of urgency because the Hawks were doing an investigation in which he thought I could be of assistance to them..."
Maseko says this person left him a number via DM that he called.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko says the approach by the Gupta family was inappropriate when they made demands and summoned him to their home and threatened that if he doesn't do what they say, he will be dealt with.
29 Aug 2018
Maleka brings Maseko back to the document he prepared for a meeting with the Public Protector. Maseko says he submitted the document via email after the meeting.
29 Aug 2018
Proceedings resume. Advocate Maleka is still leading evidence with Maseko, who corrects an earlier error he made regarding who the deputy president was in 2016.
29 Aug 2018
READ IN FULL: Vytjie Mentor's statement from the commission of inquiry into state capture
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29 Aug 2018
Maleka asks Maseko if he could indicate persons, even in confidence to the commission, who he believes has information that could assist the commission.
Maseko: "I am convinced that there are a number of senior public servants, middle managers, who have had experiences with a number of individuals, including the Gupta family, but it could also be pertaining to the conduct and behaviour of their political bosses, ministers and MECs and premiers, who have information, who may be willing to give that information to your commission.
"But it is my honest view that the reason why they may not be able to come through is
"I may not be able to give you names as we are sitting here, but even in the process leading to the drafting of this memorandum by directors general, a number of serving DGs had come forward..."
29 Aug 2018
Maseko says he made contact with ANC secretary general at the time, Gwede Mantashe, and told him that he was willing to be a participant in the process. He says he prepared a statement and hand-delivered it to him.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko tells Maleka that the memo was confined to former DGs of the post-apartheid era because they shared a common vision and comradeship. They had come together to share their concerns about what was happening, and Maseko says they had never meant to exclude anyone.
29 Aug 2018
Maseko confirms that Jacob Zuma was the president at the time that the memorandum was sent, and says Kgalema Motlanthe was
29 Aug 2018
The statement in question, as mentioned by Maseko. The statement was signed by many high-ranking officials, including Reverend Frank Chikane.
