OVERVIEW: #StateCaptureInquiry | Watson had the power to move people around, says Agrizzi

AA: Watson was arranging to have people moved around those investigators. I was asking him to explain to Mti how he had moved people around.

Note: The Hawks officers assigned to this case were changed several times. @CowansView

This recording of convo of Mti, Watson and Agrizzi = 8 May 2015.

Watson plans to lobby @PresJGZuma over appointment of new NDPP.

Watson met Zuma later in May.

In June 2015, Shaun Abrahams is appointed.

Abrahams withdraws Jiba perjury charges. @CowansView

Watson recording - TRNSCRIPT.pdf

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Watson then says that Adv Marijke de Kock was "smuggled back onto the case" after she was removed by Jiba in around 2012.

Watson thought that Glynis Breytenbach had put her back on with Jiba being aware.

Watson: "I want to implicate Willie"

Willie Hofmeyr, the former head of SIU while it investigated Bosasa. @CowansView

How Bosasa bragged about Zuma, NPA influence

In the weeks leading up to the appointment of Shaun Abrahams as the country’s prosecutions boss, Bosasa CEO Gavin Watson bragged how he planned to lobby former president Jacob Zuma to appoint someone who would "protect" his allies at the National Prosecuting Authority.

PP: At the time these discussions were held, what was the status of payments to Jiba, Lepinka and Mrwebi?

AA: They were still being paid. @CowansView

AA: The letter must be addressed to Jiba, I was told.

And we needed to challenged SIU report legalities.

How do we deal with allegations made by sources? @CowansView

AA: This note was made after the telelphone conversation.

PP: Were the contents of the telephone conversation fresh in your mind when you wrote it a day letter? @CowansView

Next document.

AA: This document was written by myself while I was on the phone with Mti. Another document was drafted by Bosasa attorneys titled 'reasons why NPA should provide nolle prosequi' (decline to prosecute certificate). @CowansView

PP: Ofcourse we shouldnt lose sight of the obvious, when Bosasa took steps to quash the investigation it did so not only for its own interests, but also Mr Mti and Mr Gillingham.

AA: Correct. @CowansView

PP: This list of advice, do you know where it originated from?

AA: Well he said he had come from a meeting with Jiba and Lepinka. @CowansView

Zondo: Whose handwriting is this on this page?

AA: It is all Mr Linda Mti. He wrote it in my presence.

AA: The original document is in possession of the investigators. @CowansView

Bosasa was to argue that the "fundamental rights of the company and individuals" were violated.

AA: The timeline of the investigation, 2006 to 2013, was also prejudicial.

AA: We were going to put it to the NPA that they had messed up and what were they going to do now? @CowansView

AA: We discussed what happened, as we usually would, after his meetings with Jiba and Lepinka.

We never used their names, we used their code names. @CowansView

PP: This was an early draft?

AA: Yes. It was given to me by Linda Mti, what it talks about is racketeering and charges of racketeering.

PP: That were being contemplated?

AA: Correct.

PP: Was a charge sheet ever served on Gillingham?

AA: No, nothing has ever been done.

PP: That is strange, because you were actually given a draft charge sheet?

AA: That is correct. Dated 30 April 2013.

PP: So it appears from this memo that at least one prosecution was ready to go ahead by late 2013.

AA: That is correct.

PP: You were made aware of this? AA: Correct.

De Kock: I am of the view that the matter can be enrolled in the second half of 2013.

De Kock: The prosecution of Bosasa group of companies - It is anticipated that evidence of corrupt relationship between Bosasa and Gillingham, including Agrizzi, Mansell, Bonifacio, will be possible..." @CowansView

PP: Did you receive information that the prosecution and investigation was still on the table at that stage?

AA: That is correct. @CowansView