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Chairperson of the Commission of Inquiry into Allegations of State Capture, Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo. (Alon Skuy/Gallo)
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14 Nov 2018
Manyi concludes his testimony. He says he has covered all.
Zondo says that if Manyi feels that he still has more to share, he will be given more time on the 23rd to do so.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: The chair will remember that the Chair asked a question if the people on the BAC were from outside - the response from Ms Williams was no some people from outside.
Thats wrong. They were all employed by GCIS.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: Next issue - she talks to issues of new members, the people who were replaced were sub-standard.
Pertinent details regarding the caliber of persons appointed were left out.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi now details how the media buying sub-structure he created saved GCIS approximately R30-million.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: This is the sentiment I left behind. There were no issues. She wrote this in July 2013.
I was surprised how she responded to that.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: I move on to some of the comments that Ms Williams made on the 2012/13 annual report. She said in more than 10 years I have been with GCIS, the importance as functioning as single unit...has never been clearer.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: This was right there for everyone to see in the organogram, it was in the annual report.
No one questioned it.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi details that he believed that media buying chief director was supposed to have an office all on its own.
Zondo: You are saying it was correct that that chief director reporting directly to CEO was permitted under circumstances?
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: Moves on to media buying executive, whose reporting line he also changed to report directly to him.
I wanted to ensure that we did not have this person who deals with billions of rands involved in any corruption etc.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: DPSA, StatsSA are examples of other SOEs where the internal auditor reports to CEO.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: It was not like I was just doing my own things. I took the issue [changing internal auditor reporting lines) to the Management Committee and Ms Williams was part of that ManCo.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: I won't go through all prescripts that support (changing reporting lines of internal auditor).
Internal audit function must report directly to the accounting officer according to Treasury regulations.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: I was disappointed that Phumla Williams was now in 2018 still challenging a corrective action to ensure good governance in 2011.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: Next issue - Internal Auditor that Ms Williams queried why I changed that the internal auditor report to me.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: That was another reason why I thought - time for a change. Indeed, chair those were the reasons for my decision [to disband the BAC].
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: I also looked at the terms of the BAC. Can you believe that Phumla Williams had been part of the BAC for 10 years!
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: I also noticed conflict of interest. Bid adjudication committee and procurement officials who were running projects with service providers who they have built a relationship with. They were one and the same.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: I was never interviewed by National Treasury. If it was not for this commission, I would not have found out that the report says I ratified this.
I did not, I noted.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi: One of the attachments is a memo by Phumla Williams actually regularising bulk procurement over the same time frame. There was a list of companies. One was blacked out - this was the same company involved in the R6-million.
14 Nov 2018
Zondo suggests that perhaps it was just incompetence at the highest level. But Zondo also says it is indeed worrying if it is actually corruption.
14 Nov 2018
Manyi says invoices were split so as not to exceed R1-million and attract the attention of National Treasury.
