AS IT HAPPENED | 'I'm not an angel, I'm a human being' - former SABC COO Hlaudi Motsoeneng at #StateCaptureInquiry
Motsoeneng's testimony has been wrapped up, for now. He is excused and Zondo thanks him.
Motsoeneng was earlier reminded that he may well be called back to the commission to testify again or be cross-examined.
Proceedings adjourn for tea.
Advocate Norman says the legal team has been informed that "Marie Swanepoel", the SABC HR officer that Motsoeneng had mentioned at the start of his testimony, is in fact alive, despite previous rumours of her passing. The commission's investigators traced the information back to Home Affairs to verify.
Zondo says the rumours were rather unfortunate, and requests that Swanepoel be contacted to come and assist the commission.
Motsoeneng: "We should not allow media to operate outside the mandate of the public broadcaster..."
Motsoeneng says he did not ban the visuals of violent protests, but he also did not want to encourage "unlawful stuff".
Motsoeneng makes and example with an instance where people would... maybe be burning property in Gauteng, then next it's Free State, and /or Kwazulu Natal, he says the influence would be coming from the Media. (Example)#StateCaptureInquiry— State Capture Commission (@StateCaptureCom) September 12, 2019
Motsoeneng currently discussing employment and labour issues at the SABC, says when he became acting COO, he decided to eventually replace outsourced consultants at the public broadcaster with internal staff.
Motsoeneng says the unions at the SABC "would never defeat me". "The union would even try but I would address the workers and the unions would also complain because I would offer a sweetener," he says.
Motsoeneng says he had also approached the then Minister of Sport Mr Fikile Mbalula for an assistance in terms of funding AFCON.#StateCaptureInquiry— State Capture Commission (@StateCaptureCom) September 12, 2019
Motsoeneng again expressed his concern at the way the media portrays him. Zondo says that at the end of the day, his findings will be based purely on the evidence put before him at the commission, and he will not be influenced by the media in any way.
Adv Norman wants to know how Motsoeneng managed to raise R387m during his tenure at the SABC— Jeanette Chabalala (@J_chabalala) September 12, 2019
Zondo interjects – he stresses that he wants to know where Motsoeneng did well and where he did wrong at the SABC. #StateCaptureInquiry @TeamNews24
"When I arrived at SABC I stopped blackouts, after I left, SABC went to blackouts, they also went back to needing to be bailed which did not happen in my time" Says Motsoeneng before the commission.#StateCaptureInquiry— State Capture Commission (@StateCaptureCom) September 12, 2019
Motsoeneng repeats what he said yesterday, about National Treasury refusing to fund the venture between the public broadcaster and MultiChoice. Zondo also established with Motsoeneng that initial negotiations between the SABC board chair and group CEO, and MultiChoice, collapsed after funding became an issue. A figure of R50-million is repeatedly mentioned, but Motsoeneng says he's speaking from memory and is not sure on the exact figures.
Motsoeneng says without Multichoice SABC was no longer able to broadcast sports right e.g rugby was being cast at R6m per match which was expensive and out of reach for the SABC.#StateCaptureInquiry— State Capture Commission (@StateCaptureCom) September 12, 2019
Motsoeneng talks about getting the SABC ready for the switch from analogue to digital transmission. Motsoeneng says his plan was to have two extra "pilot" channels ready, so that when the switch from analogue happened, there would be five channels, which would be his legacy. These were some of the factors in his negotiations with MultiChoice, says Motsoeneng. He had consulted with former SABC board chair Ben Ngubane during these negotiations.
Today's proceedings commence, with Advocate Thandi Norman reminding Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo that Hlaudi Motsoeneng's testimony yesterday was paused at the point where he was explaining the SABC/MultiChoice deal.
Motsoeneng is directed to pick up his testimony from this point.
Commission will hear SABC related testimony from former Chief Operating Officer : Mr Hlaudi Motsoeneng, BDM expert: Mr Lawrence Roy Kruger, and Programme Manager (SIU): Mr Leonard Lekgetho this morning on Thursday 12 September 2019 at 10H00.#StateCaptureInquiry pic.twitter.com/xGUmuZLpbZ— State Capture Commission (@StateCaptureCom) September 12, 2019
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